9 1/2 W. Wide enough toe box, excellent heel fit. Last number 488 was designed for me. Bunionette on right foot demands stretch, softness and no seams placed on bunionette. There is a soft fabric placed inside the top of the toe box which protects hammer toes. I have purchased 6 pairs of the 'Travelers' over the years (last 488) and they have never disappointed me.
So now I love Joliet II

I'm really sad with this purchase. I have a narrow foot and generally order Narrow from Munro. Because I currently live overseas, in July, when I traveled to Miami, I took the opportunity to order a pair of Joliet shoes from Munro, in black and in my usual size 9.5 N. They arrived just before I left the US, and I tried them on briefly. Unfortunately, the left foot fits well, but the right foot is wide in the heel. I have tried various heel pads to no avail. Since I am overseas, I cannot return the shoes to Munro in the USA--international mail is very expensive. I was planning to take the Joliet shoes on a trip in September, but that will be impossible because when I walk the right shoe slips out! Due to this problem, I can only give three stars to the Joliet and cannot recommend these lovely shoes.

I have been very happy with my Joliet II - Just recently found them! I wear an 11 narrow and have a high arch - This shoe fits like a glove, providing excellent support and is an attractive shoe. Unfortunately, although I would like to purchase another pair I find they are out of stock! Hope to see my size available again soon!

I am so glad I found these shoes again. I bought this shoe in the tan years ago, love them and still wear them. Wanted a pair in black and just got them and wore them all day. Great fit.. I am a true 8.5 and these fit perfectly. I also need arch support and these are great. I also like the style and ease of putting them on and taking off. Very pleased with my new Joliets and will probalby replace my old tan ones with a new pair.

I was thrilled to find a shoe that fit so well. I wear a 10.5 N. The first pair was the lace up version of Joliet. The fabric frayed from the leather at the top of both shoes within a few months. I had bought them while on vacation in New Jersey. Since I live in Texas I did not return them.
I later bought the Joliet version in black leather and grey/pewter fabric which tended to snag.
I retired both for a while but recently buffed them up and wore them. I noticed a huge black smudge on my car floor mat 😲. The soles cracked completely through and pieces were falling off.
I got out my laceups which looked fine until I flexed them. Same problem!!!
Since the shoes have been kept in my closet away from sun and temperature variations I can only conclude that substandard materials were used.
I have a pair of Bandolino’s that are nearly 30 years old with a similar cushion sole which are just fine to this very day. So I know a better material exists.
$230 is entirely too much for disintegrating shoes.
Send a prepaid shipping label and I will gladly return them.